{"id":473,"date":"2010-07-08T09:05:03","date_gmt":"2010-07-08T07:05:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.my-grape-vine.com\/blog\/?p=473"},"modified":"2012-09-11T11:35:55","modified_gmt":"2012-09-11T11:35:55","slug":"planting_grape_vines","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.my-grape-vine.com\/blog\/planting_grape_vines\/","title":{"rendered":"Planting distances and row distances for grape vines"},"content":{"rendered":"

Hi grape growing friends,<\/p>\n

With the Soccer World Cup fever at it’s highest here in South Africa, and my farm workers on annual vacation leave, I took some\u00a0time off with my family\u00a0as well.\u00a0 I traveled to a few places aroud our beautiful country and just enjoy all the visitors to South\u00a0Africa and the\u00a0great football.\u00a0\u00a0I hope some the readers of my blog\u00a0were here\u00a0and would love to hear what your comments are – maybe break the\u00a0rule, to never talk about anything else than growing grapes on this blog, and put up a post for this??\u00a0 Great game by Spain yesterday!\u00a0 I think it will be a cracking final on Sunday.<\/p>\n

Anyway, now I’m back in business and back in front of my PC, bringing you some fresh grape growing info to start the second half of the year.\u00a0 With that said, let’s look at planting distances and row distances for grapes<\/strong><\/em>.<\/p>\n

Gardening space is normally a big problem for home grape growers, so they cramp three to four grape vines into a 10 squire feet area in their garden.\u00a0 Of course this seems logical; they\u00a0hope to get a bigger crop because they planted more grape vines, but unfortunately, this is where it\u00a0all goes wrong!<\/p>\n

Planting a row of grape vines\u00a0or a vineyard, starts with proper planning.\u00a0 Before you even buy the cuttings, asses the area where you will plant the vines and measure the length of the row you will construct.\u00a0 If you plan to plant more than one row, then measure the width of the area as well.<\/p>\n

During the first couple of years (year 1 to 3), grape vines that were planted with too little space between the vines, will most probably not show any stress or symptoms.\u00a0\u00a0As the vines grow older, the\u00a0rooting zone and the canopy area gets bigger and sooner or later the adjacent vines will start to grow into each other.<\/p>\n

When\u00a0this happens, the canopy of the vine will compact and prevent proper airflow and sunlight penetration into the vine.\u00a0 Not only is this bad for disease control, but will also have a huge influence on the fruitfulness of the grape vine.<\/p>\n

I’ve personally seen the effect this has on a grape vine.\u00a0 One of my friends decided to plant his vineyard 1.2 (+-4 feet) between the vines\u00a0x 2.8m (+- 9 feet) between the rows. At first the vineyard was doing just fine, but round about year five, the production of the vineyard dropped by almost one third and\u00a0in year six, it dropped even more!\u00a0<\/p>\n

We assessed the problem\u00a0and decided that the problem was nothing else than unfruitfulness;\u00a0the variety (Sugraone), he\u00a0grew\u00a0is\u00a0genetically an unfruitful variety itself, which made the problem even worse.\u00a0\u00a0He decided\u00a0to removed every other grape vine in the row,\u00a0changing the planting distance to\u00a02.4m x 3m (8ft x 9ft).\u00a0\u00a0The next season, the vineyard produced a normal crop and since then went on to become one of his top producing vineyards on his farm.<\/p>\n

Now you may ask; “Then what is the best planting distances?”\u00a0 To answer the question, you will have to look at how you will train and prune the grape vines; how vigorous the variety grows and if you will use tractors and implements in your vineyard.\u00a0 For varieties you prune with spurs,\u00a0I would recommend the absolute<\/span> minimum between the vines\u00a0to be 1.2m to 1.5 m\u00a0(4ft to 5ft) and for cane pruned vineyards 1.8 to 2m (6 to 7 feet).\u00a0\u00a0 The reason why I recommend a greater planting distance for cane pruned vineyards, is because it takes up more space on the canopy wires and we usually prune vigorous growing and unfruitful varieties with canes.<\/p>\n

As said earlier, the distance between the rows depends on the way you will cultivate the vineyard and your variety\u00a0so you will need to know the width of the tractor or spray pump and add about 15 to 20 % for the movement of the implements in the rows.\u00a0 If you will not be using tractors and other implements in your vineyard, the same rule\u00a0as for planting distances applies to row distances.<\/p>\n

What is\u00a0most common planting distances for grapes?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I would recon it would be 8 to 9 feet between rows and 6 to 8 feet between vines giving you round about 600 to 800 vines per acre.<\/p>\n

Here is an email I received from Judy:<\/p>\n

Danie, <\/em><\/span><\/div>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Wow! What a wealth of information you have.. I recently moved to\u00a0Carson City, Nv,from Torrance, Calif. I am at 2,800′. I have a home on a nice acre of desert soil.\u00a0\u00a0 I have planted 4\u00a0 bare root Thompson seedless.\u00a0I had potted the plants until I replanted a few weeks ago… .\u00a0 I dug 4,\u00a03′ holes and filled them with my compost, potting soil, mixed with the desert soil.. I know 3ft., holes are a bit deep, but, I figured it wouldn’t hurt..\u00a0 I also planted them 4ft. apart.. It will be only one row.. I still have concord to plant.. How far away should the concord be planted.. Will they cross?\u00a0 I’m 67 and\u00a0 digging these holes aren’t easy, but, I figure it’s good exercise.. If you have any information that would help me in this climate.. It;s 101 today.. I eventually want to add\u00a0 more Thompson and Concord. Thank You for your time, <\/em><\/span><\/div>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Sincerely, <\/em><\/span><\/div>\n
\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Judy<\/em><\/span><\/div>\n

First of all, thank you Judy for the email.\u00a0 You have inspired me to write this article so here is what I think you should do.<\/p>\n

1st:\u00a0101’F is no problem for a grape vine, they will adapt to these conditions easily.<\/p>\n

2nd:\u00a0 You will plant only one row, so the\u00a0distance between rows\u00a0is no problem \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n

3rd:\u00a0 The varieties you will grow are Concord and Thompson and\u00a0both these varieties are cane pruned (long bearers).\u00a0\u00a0Thompson Seedless itself, is a variety that is known for it’s vigour and\u00a0unfruitfulness, so if you read what I’ve said before, I would recommend a planting distance of not closer than 6 to 7 feet.\u00a0<\/p>\n

I know this is bad news for you, as you will have to make new planting holes, but rather do it right from the start than to have a row of grape vines that does not produce a proper crop.<\/p>\n

Just to show you how we lay out our vineyards before we plant the posts and vines; her is a picture of one of my vineyards.\u00a0 You will see the chalk lines on the ground; this is where the the canopy posts will be planted.\u00a0 The planting distance I will use is 3m (between rows)\u00a0x 2m (between vines).<\/p>\n

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Right, so I hope you guys have a learned something new from the article and again thanks for reading my blog and supporting the effort I put in.<\/p>\n

Good luck to the Netherlands and Spain\u00a0for the final match on Sunday!.<\/p>\n

Cheers for now, and I will talk\u00a0to you soon.<\/p>\n

Danie<\/p>\n

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\u00a0Remember, once you planted your grape vine, it will be part of your life for many years to come;\u00a0 so doing it right the first time is important!<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

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